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My abuse of a brand new motorbike
Started at 04:16pm on the 29th May, 2018 by stinkwheel
stinkwheel Subject: My abuse of a brand new motorbike
"running in" is an often discussed subject and not only on this forum. Just had a holiday experience I thought I'd share.

I'm just back from a week in the Algarve, Portugal where I hired a new UCE 500 classic for a few days. When it was dropped off at the villa, it had 30km on it from new.

Now having just hired a bike, there is no way I'm spending my holiday running it in for them, I've hired it to ride. So first outing, it went for a 20km 2-up run on undulating dirt tracks, mostly in second gear. Next day it did an 80km round trip on twisty single track roads, stirring the gearbox to beep it moving briskly along but in fairness, only doing up to 90km/h. On day 3 I took it 2-up for another 250km on precipitous and winding B-roads with a fair chunk of the notoriously steep and twisty National Route 2. I didn't give it any quarter, topping out at 90-100km/h and keeping it on the boil the whole way, making no allowances for its relative newness. All this in temperatures of around 30 degrees.

As well as being a delightfully civilised ride compared to my 350 classic (although less characterful), I was very pleased with its performance (and ground clearance), it was very "chuckable" and didn't get out of shape at any point. Getting to the point of my post, nor did it do anything untoward mechanically. No stutters, bogs, partial seizures, tantrums, refusals to start or even funny burning smells. The only thing of note was a slight oil weep round the back right of the head gasket.

So brand new bike with delivery mileage and I took it out and effectively spanked its arse for several hundred miles and it didn't miss a beat.



Posted: 04:16pm 29th May, 2018
Rattlebattle Subject: My abuse of a brand new motorbike
I do the same with demonstrators, which is why I would never buy one... On another forum an American company thrashed two UCE bikes flat out for miles without apparent ill effect. No need to mollycoddle them really.
Posted: 06:34pm 29th May, 2018
Jamesy Subject: My abuse of a brand new motorbike
I don't give a shxt because it's not mine so fxxk it.Its that what you are saying guys?.
Posted: 11:40pm 29th May, 2018
stinkwheel Subject: My abuse of a brand new motorbike
No, that's not really what I'm saying at all. Although if they want it running in slowly or it taking easy (and in fairness, they didn't ask me to), they shouldn't be charging someone for the privelage. The rental guy said he's been hiring out bullets for 3 years now and has had more problems with the BMWs in his hire fleet.

There is a pervasive implication in the motorcycling community that unless you "take it easy" on a new bike there will be some immediate and dramatic consequence like the engine exploding or heat seizing. Also that despite what people are finding with Japanese bikes, the big single, OHV (and loose bored) engines on enfields are somehow a special case and need extra mollycoddling.

My experience here seems to add a little more weight to the counter opinion. Short of deliberately riding it about in an excessively low gear, I couldn't have given this a harder time in normal road riding with no apparent immediate consequences. Possibly gives a little more credence to the "hard running in" procedure which is becoming accepted as more normal in the sportsbike community.

The one thing that hire bike wont be getting that it ought to be (in my opinion) is a short-interval oil change round about now.
Posted: 09:53am 30th May, 2018
Jamesy Subject: My abuse of a brand new motorbike
All I can say is you 2 will not be getting any test rides on any bikes I will have for sale.
Posted: 10:43pm 30th May, 2018
Jamesy Subject: My abuse of a brand new motorbike
All I can say is you 2 will not be getting any test rides on any bikes I will have for sale.
Posted: 10:43pm 30th May, 2018
Leon Novello Subject: My abuse of a brand new motorbike
Highly recommended method. And as stated in the article, most motorcycles are ridden in this manner by pre-sales and delivery staff for the first 20/30 kms.
http://mototuneusa.com/break_in_secrets.htm
Posted: 12:25am 31st May, 2018
Jamesy Subject: My abuse of a brand new motorbike
Test ride? Well if the price is right.thats ok 😋😋😋
Posted: 07:32am 31st May, 2018
Haggis Subject: My abuse of a brand new motorbike
Flat out till it's fixed is fine if your not going to keep the bike long term. I know what works for me and my bikes, and it's not that.🔧🔧🔧
Posted: 09:28am 31st May, 2018
vince Subject: My abuse of a brand new motorbike
Hi, if you think about it you dont run in a motocrosser for 500miles.
Posted: 06:31pm 31st May, 2018
Rattlebattle Subject: My abuse of a brand new motorbike
I was talking about riding demonstrators at a dealer not a private sale. If the dealer can’t be bothered to run in a bike that’s his affair but if I wish to try one before buying I’m going to ride it according to what it is. I don’t actually ride test bikes flat out (I ride ones that actually go fast not just these bikes). Most dealers want £500 deposit or more against damage so I’m not going to take liberties. All I am saying is that I’m not prepared to mollycoddle a demo bike on a test ride, or risk blowing the engine, but there’s little to be gained by tiddling around on one.
Posted: 06:50pm 31st May, 2018
2cvandy Subject: My abuse of a brand new motorbike
There's a lot of bollox talked about running in new engines. Just listen to the engine instead, it'll tell you if it's not happy. Probably better to let it rev a little than have it lugging along slowly in top gear anyway.
Posted: 07:14pm 1st June, 2018
Bullet Whisperer Subject: My abuse of a brand new motorbike
The running in period is probably of some value to the manufacturers and dealers, as it will absorb some of the mileage and time lapsed during the warranty period, while components get an easier life. Not that I am in any way cynical, of course.
Posted: 10:33am 2nd June, 2018
Jamesy Subject: My abuse of a brand new motorbike
It's a long read but explains why engines need to be "run in". https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Break-in_(mechanical_run-in)
Posted: 01:23pm 2nd June, 2018
stinkwheel Subject: My abuse of a brand new motorbike
Interesting article, which broadly promotes a "hard" run in. Although it is on wikipaedia and so is no more to be trusted as correct than my opinion.
Posted: 05:39pm 4th June, 2018
Revband Subject: My abuse of a brand new motorbike
An interesting book to read is, Triumph a Production tester's tales by Hughie Hancox, he was a factory bike tester back in the 50s when every bike was test ridden before leaving the factory. He says that every bike was tested flat out at speed before it was passed.
Posted: 08:30pm 5th June, 2018
sofiaspin Subject: My abuse of a brand new motorbike
With my new C5 Euro 4 I took it easy up to 500 miles with max speed of 55mph. I did an extra - Silkolene - oil and filter change at 900 miles. I am pressing on now routinely hitting 65mph. The only concern is the rev limiter kicking in and the bike is sluggish and it has no urge beyond 65mph. It has 1350 on the clock. My old Electra X was a flier compared to this Euro 4 C5.
Posted: 03:07pm 10th June, 2018
Jack the Lad Subject: My abuse of a brand new motorbike
My Electra efi was a lot better after 5000 miles - or perhaps by then I just had more realistic expectations. The Himalayan seemed to get more wind in its sails after 2000 miles. My experience suggests you just need to thrash it for a few more miles and remember it's an Enfield, not a Fireblade!
Posted: 08:28pm 10th June, 2018
Marko Subject: My abuse of a brand new motorbike
I too read Hughie Hancox's book.. I also have a slightly warped understanding of running an engine in... if it hasn't gone bang during the 1st 100 miles I do start giving it some welly ;)
Posted: 10:03pm 10th June, 2018

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