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Staror rotor refitment
Started at 10:24am on the 8th January, 2019 by Super45
Super45 Subject: Staror rotor refitment
Hi Guys in oproces of rebuild the bike after a clutch change and forgot to note which way round the rotor is fitted to the crank shaft on my 2000 350 iron barrel, it looks identical on both sides bar the word 'ignition' written on one side, this is the side if fitted facing outwards, I know I need to ensure equal clearance on all sides on the stator itself but thats fine just want to make sure ive refitted the rotor correctly as currently ive got a dead battery and no spark either Thanks
Posted: 10:24am 8th January, 2019
Mark M Subject: Staror rotor refitment
It sounds as if you have the rotor fitted the right way round. In any case, the 'wrong' way wouldn't make any difference to the alternator function so a lack of charge is a problem somewhere else.

REgards, Mark
Posted: 01:02pm 8th January, 2019
Super45 Subject: Staror rotor refitment
Thanks Mark Thought that would be the case but wanted to be sure! will double check the clearnace on the stator, charge the battery then go from there
Posted: 03:05pm 8th January, 2019
stinkwheel Subject: Staror rotor refitment
It's important to set the clearance (otherwise it all rubs against the stator) however that is also unlikely to be your problem unless it's rubbed so far through the stator, it's caused a short.
Posted: 03:10pm 8th January, 2019
Norm Subject: Staror rotor refitment
You will never get any spark with a dead battery
Posted: 04:45pm 8th January, 2019
Super45 Subject: Staror rotor refitment
refitted and rebuilt annoyinly and doent cath the stator , battery charged and once surface charge had disipated was showing 12.3v so its below par, however it started the bike but the bike is now decided it wants to go back to its old ways and has started overcharging again dont know if this could be down to the duff battery or if the reg/rec has thrown towel in again
Posted: 09:52am 14th January, 2019
papasmurf Subject: Staror rotor refitment
Super45, it is easy to check for overcharging with a multimeter. With the engine running above tick over the charge rate should within the 14V-15V area. If higher the voltage regulator is faulty and or the battery is.) (It needs to be above 13.2 Volts anyway.) As well I suggest fully charging the battery off of the bike, check the voltage straight after charging is should be in the 12.6v-13.2v range. Leave the battery off of the bike and check the voltage 24 hours later, any significant drop means the battery is fubarred.
Posted: 10:07am 14th January, 2019
Super45 Subject: Staror rotor refitment
Papasmurf, already done, the 12.3v was after being charged for 36 hours and left for 24 hours so enough time for any surface charge to disipate, its showing 15.4v across the terminals at idle, will borrow another multimetre to double check incase this one is picking up interference from the charging system, I've been though all the wires and connectors and all have good continuity, If I replace the rectifier with the lucas one sold by our hosts this will be the third reg/rec in the 18 months ive owned the bike, worth a note all other reg / recs have been swiss branded so dont know if this has an effect on things
Posted: 02:43pm 14th January, 2019
papasmurf Subject: Staror rotor refitment
12.3 volts is low, and 15.4 volts is high.
Posted: 02:59pm 14th January, 2019
Adrian Subject: Staror rotor refitment
"Swiss" in this case is India's answer to W E Wassell. I'd be tempted to try another make indeed, but the possibility that you've fried a Lucas (branded) item AS WELL AS two Indian versions make me wonder if there's an undiscovered and possibly intermittent short circuit "somewhere" (sorry!) killing them long before they would normally fail.

A.
Posted: 06:59pm 14th January, 2019
Super45 Subject: Staror rotor refitment
Hi Adrian, not fitted a Lucas one yet its in my shopping basket waiting for pay day so far dosent seem to of fried any off the reg/recs, original one fitted was a combined sigle unit swiss one, replaced that with new one the same, no change still overcharging, second one was 2nd hand combined one same issue, third one was new swiss seperate reg and rec boxes wired in series like they used to be on pre '99 bullets and this did drop the volts to high 14's low 15's from the high 15's I'd been seeing on the multimetre, all off them have run stone cold in use which i belive from jap bike experiece isnt right as they dispate charge though heat, all the wires seem to check out for continuity and they receve power from system when running I've thought that myself about a short somewhere, the previous owner fitted a new loom to the bike after replacing the previous burnt out ignition switch and damaged cut off switch where the previous owner to him hot wired the bike so it would run. Not sure where he got the loom from so could be of dubious quality but it is new by state of the wiring, but ive not found any damaged wires so far on my travels when ive had the bike in bits to change the headgasket and fit the replacement mudguard, ive also had the handlebar control switch blocks in bits too due to replacing the handlebars for 50's style ones ones and no sign their either. one thought could the short be in the stator coils or could the coils be overcharging as a fault enough to cook any reg/rec? when I did the clutch, the coils did look dirty ( mainly from old oil in primary ). onl;y other thing I can think is when i refitted the throttle cable yonks ago I must of touched the back of the Ampmeter as I threaded the cable back though the casquet, there was a small spark (ignition was off but obvioulsy must of cross the terminals )but could a short be inside the Ampmetre? it never really shows what you would expect and doesnt deflect much when the points open and when the bike is running last time is flickers in the centre rather than showing posative or negative, it only really acts as it should if you flick the indicators on with the engine off where it flicks into red then back toi centre.
Posted: 09:10am 15th January, 2019
Super45 Subject: Staror rotor refitment
Only other thing is it does keep blowing the off side pilot light bulb holder looked ok when i changed the bulb though
Posted: 09:15am 15th January, 2019
Super45 Subject: Staror rotor refitment
Only other thing is it does keep blowing the off side pilot light bulb holder looked ok when i changed the bulb though
Posted: 09:15am 15th January, 2019
Super45 Subject: Staror rotor refitment
oh and the main beam light warning light has never worked on it just never got round changing the bulb
Posted: 09:18am 15th January, 2019

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